Anyone listen to Roslyn Kind (Barbra Streisand's sister) lately? She really has come into her own. Roslyn Kind shows you how long it takes to master a craft like singing, some people have the idea it happens overnight. (Remember Judy Garland in "A Star is Born" when she says "overnight?" ironically, when asked if her success happened that way?) Frank Sinatra had to play many years with big bands like Harry James and Tommy Dorsey to hone his craft. And of course, Barbra Streisand had to perform on Broadway and in Hollywood to learn cues and intonation and pitch, to become the superstar she is today. Roslyn Kind has her own website if anyone wants to hear her voice.